Review: Virgin’s ‘new concept’ Boeing 737 business, economy seats
These prototype seats represent a fresh take for Virgin’s business and economy passengers.
Executive Traveller exclusive
- Plush business class seats finally get leg and foot rests, AC/USB sockets
- Slimline economy seats combine comfort with more legroom
- Every seat includes inbuilt holder for tablets and smartphones
Step on board a Virgin Australia flight these days and you could be helping to shape the airline’s next generation of business class and economy seats.
Two of Virgin’s almost 80-strong fleet of workhorse Boeing 737 jets have been outfitted with new seats which are decidedly different – and markedly better – than what the airline has flown for the past 10 years.
Virgin describes these as “prototypes” which showcase a range of features that could make their way onto future aircraft “as our fleet grows.”
This will include the Boeing 737 MAX, which Virgin Australia expects to begin flying by the middle of 2023 on domestic and short-range overseas flights.
(That doesn’t mean these exact seats will appear on the 25 factory-fresh 737 MAX jets, although that can’t be discounted – it’s more that passenger feedback from real-world experience with these seats will shape Virgin’s decision, which needs to be made soon due to the lead time in design, production and safety certification.)
What’s the story behind Virgin Australia’s new Boeing 737 seats?
The two Boeing 737s fitted with these concept seats were formerly flown by SilkAir, the regional arm of Singapore Airlines (one give-away is SilkAir’s floral detailing which remains embossed on the bulkhead in front of business class).
Rather than install the same seats as the rest of the Virgin Australia fleet, the airline opted for a fresh take – ironically, one that employs the same business and economy seats as SilkAir’s own Boeing 737 MAX jets (you can read our review of the SilkAir Boeing 737 MAX business class experience).
These gussied-up Boeing 737s are circulating around the Virgin Australia network, so they can appear on virtually any route at any time.
“We can’t wait for guests to experience the new interior for themselves if they’re lucky enough to fly on either of the two aircraft that have initially been fitted with the new design” says Paul Jones, Virgin Australia’s Group Chief Customer and Digital Officer.
You’ll immediately know if you end up on one of these ‘surprise and delight’ jets: the most obvious giveaway, at least for now, is the lack of that familiar dividing wall and purple perspex panel between business class and economy class (Executive Traveller understands this will be added in the coming months).
To put Virgin’s prototype seats to the test, Executive Traveller jumped onto a Virgin Australia flight from Sydney to Hamilton Island and back (yes, there and back on the same day – no beach-combing holiday on the sly for your hard-working correspondents), with one leg in business class and the other in economy.
Review: Virgin Australia’s new concept Boeing 737 business class
Virgin Australia’s new concept Boeing 737 business class seat is an overdue equaliser against that of Qantas’ Boeing 737 business class, and in some areas it even pulls ahead.
For starters, an extendable legrest and footrest swings up from the front of the seat (which is the MiQ model from Collins Aerospace). That’s been missing from Virgin Australia business class for way too long.
Combine this with a deeper recline – an extra seven inches over Virgin’s standard business class seat – and you’re pretty much set for a power nap after that too-early start or at the end of a long day.
(For an added cradling effect, the front of the seat angles up slightly as you recline – although if you’re of average height you may find the footrest sits better against your feet when the seat’s not reclined.)
Even if the passenger in front of you fully reclines their seat, it doesn’t overly encroach on ‘your’ space and there’s still enough room to keep working away on your laptop – although if your legrest is full extended, the top of your feet can catch on the base of the seat ahead.
The armrest at the aisle seats (1C, 1D, 2C and 2D) can be lowered for easier access by less mobile guests.
The seat has more of a ‘design' feel than its predecessor, and the padding and support of the ribbed upholstery hits the ‘just right’ spot between firm and soft, making it noticeably more comfortable than what you’ll be accustomed to – but this could also be because the seats are new, rather than having survived 10+ years of heavy-duty wear.
Another welcome win for Virgin’s premium passengers: AC and USB power sockets. Finally.
While a handful of Virgin’s Boeing 737s sport AC outlets tucked away at the front of their business class seats, these new seats make this less of an afterthought – and they pair that 240V port with a high-power USB-A socket so you can keep all your travel tech charged up.
As a bonus, the AC/USB outlets are where you need them – literally at your elbow – so there’s no fumbling around the front of the seat, AC plug in hand, trying to blindly slide those prongs into the socket.
You’ll find both power ports in a recess under the armrest – just flip up the lid, slot in your cables and start juicing up your gadgets.
That nook is plenty deep enough to stow knick-knacks ranging from reading glasses or sunglasses to an inflight amenity kit, notepads, books and tablets.
While Virgin Australia’s new business class seats still lack the personal video screen of their Qantas counterparts, many tech-toting travellers will prefer Virgin’s innovative approach of integrating a tablet or smartphone stand into the tray table.
In its half-open position, a metal flap swings firmly up – with a deliberately stiff movement – to keep your device confidently propped up at desired angle.
And there’s room in front for some snacks to nibble on while you watch your BYO entertainment.
Just make your selection from Virgin’s refreshed basket of business class snacks, which now features some healthy bites from Velocity partner Youfoodz.
Fully extended, the tray is quite stable and will provide ample real estate for even the largest laptop...
… and of course for your meal, such as this chicken katsu curry and rice (although the vegetarian option of a ‘Burrito unwrapped' power bowl with brown rice, sweet potato, corn and beans looked delicious too.)
The Executive Traveller take: it’s hard to find serious fault with Virgin Australia’s concept business class seat, and we hope the airline carries the best features across to whatever new seat it actually settles upon.
Review: Virgin Australia’s new concept Boeing 737 economy class
Let’s be honest: there’s only so much you can do with an economy seat. Cabin space is limited, airline budgets are limited, and as a result legroom is limited.
But with Virgin’s Boeing 737 economy ‘demonstrator’ just a few small changes sum to a better experience, beginning with a little more legroom.
This is due to the seat itself being slimmer, although that doesn’t come at the expense of comfort: the same ribbed design as in business class appears here, and the seat is no harder on your back than Virgin’s regular Boeing 737 economy pew.
It’s simply that considered design aligned with modern manufacturing and materials can trim the seat’s profile and free up extra space where it’s needed: at the knees and shins.
And until the divider between business and economy is installed, row 3 has insane legroom – more even than business class.
(Also slimmer: the armrest between the seats, which adds a smidge more room at your hips but makes it almost useless for resting your arm if you’ve a seat mate.)
The safety card and ‘buy on board’ menu have been relocated to a dedicated nook at the top of the setback, above the tray table, decluttering the mesh pocket at the bottom of the seat so that it’s yours to use as you see fit.
At the front of the safety card nook and above the latch for the tray table sits a clever plastic lip which folds out and acts as a perch for your tablet or smartphone, again playing to Virgin’s ‘BYO entertainment’ model.
What’s missing? The means to keep the battery on that tablet or phone topped up, especially on a long flight such as the 4-5 hour trek between the east and west coasts.
There are no shared AC outlets between the seats or even per-seat USB sockets.
However, look carefully: just to the right of that device holder is a black plastic bump, which is covered by a small adhesive square – and concealed under that lurks a USB power socket.
It’s not wired up or working – that’s why the socket is covered – but USB power outlets are a must-have for any modern economy seat, and there’s no way this won’t be on whatever seat Virgin Australia chooses the next time around.
With the tray table down and a bit of elbow room due to having the window on one side and an empty seat on the other, it was even possible to tap away on my 13-inch laptop – not a task you’d typically tackle in economy.
The Executive Traveller take: with more comfort, legroom and convenience features than Virgin Australia’s regular economy seat, this new model is a sensible step forward for the airline – now, about those USB sockets...
The author travelled as a guest of Virgin Australia.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
20 Mar 2012
Total posts 229
Look like they’ve re-upholstered the business class seats from the ex-Silkair 737s they recently took on.
They’re comfy seats and a definite improvement on the old product. Good stuff.
23 May 2011
Total posts 35
Theyre brand new seats. Silk didn't have this type on their 737-800s
30 Aug 2019
Total posts 25
No divider between business and economy? Wonder if that will change?
Won't miss that purple perspex though!
30 Aug 2019
Total posts 25
Would love to see a curtain instead!
United Airlines - Mileage Plus
12 Sep 2011
Total posts 343
And enforce C toilet for C pax (both QF and VA!!!)
06 Dec 2019
Total posts 2
There will be a new divider between economy and business. Will be installed after certification. (According to a VA employee on instagram) There will also be USB charging ports in economy that will also be installed, you could see the cutouts for them already.
05 May 2012
Total posts 32
I only just noticed that today!
QF
11 Jul 2014
Total posts 894
I was waiting for this to happen, I just hope the longer flights (over 4 hours) get an even better seat option.
24 Aug 2011
Total posts 1189
I doubt they are interested in creating a small subfleet with a different lie flat J option. Apart from the loss of fleet efficiency, I'm pretty sure VA has come to the conclusion that the economics of lie-flat seats on domestic services just don't make sense unless you can significantly hike up the J fares. QF has probably come to believe the same.
Qantas
19 Apr 2012
Total posts 1435
Reeve qantas does it on their A330s and I expect their A320 XLRs for the same reason
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
07 Aug 2013
Total posts 251
They may take that opportunity on the B737-Max10 aircraft.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
04 Nov 2017
Total posts 311
At most if there is to be any 'subfleet' of the MAX-10 (keep in mind VA did cancel the MAX-8 order), at most it'll be extra legroom seats in Y and/or more pitch in J.
Can't see lie-flats on a small subfleet for flights to largely low-yielding/budget conscious short-haul international destinations such as NAN and DPS.
24 Aug 2011
Total posts 1189
Is the black dot on the back of Y seats covering a USB charging point or just a space where one could go?
06 Dec 2019
Total posts 2
Yes it's a cutout for a USB charging port, although they haven't been installed yet in those pics.
United Airlines - Mileage Plus
12 Sep 2011
Total posts 343
I personally didnt find any problem with the old seats except no power supply The footrest thing, if its anything like QF C is pretty much useless if your 6ft3 like me - more comfortable to not extend it
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
15 Nov 2021
Total posts 1
In the same boat. Would have been great if they could have got the "Z" cradle to help.
01 Jun 2021
Total posts 6
As Borat would say... very nice.
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
24 Jan 2018
Total posts 614
Pffffft !
18 Sep 2015
Total posts 129
It would be good to see an image of the J seat fully reclined and see ho much it impinges on the seat space behind.
United Airlines - Mileage Plus
12 Sep 2011
Total posts 343
ypu I dont recline because I have concern for the pax behind me - many are oblivious Too many QF C flights squashed in like a sardine and cant see the ipad
03 May 2021
Total posts 35
Is there power outlets in economy class now?
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
28 Oct 2011
Total posts 470
You might try reading the story, as that question is answered.
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
05 Aug 2016
Total posts 5
As someone who temporarily switched to QF out of concern for the future of VA during the pandemic, I can say with certainty that the legrest/recline has never been a major concern of mine. I can't recall one instance of being pleased that I had a legrest on a QF flight, but I can recall a persistent concern about the service - no pre-flight beverage (not even water!), and a thoroughly disappointing meal/service experience was the norm.
Since VA has launched its new Business Class menu, I've not once been disappointed with the meal - and the service has been exceptional, as always.
I recognise that not all will agree with me, but as someone of average height - the current (new) VA business class experience and the big price difference to QF makes VA a no brainer. This new seat is a nice bonus - but certainly not a gamechanger.
23 Oct 2014
Total posts 230
Michael - I totally agree, not acknowledged enough in comparisons between airlines is PRICE of the product. And the gap is massive, but the product offered is basically identical, Virgin is a no brainer as you say on this alone.
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
05 Aug 2016
Total posts 5
Absolutely... a no brainer on the East Coast. East-West is (sadly) a different story, but not many of us have been able to fly those routes since March 2020!
05 May 2012
Total posts 32
Has anyone come across the registrations of the two aircraft yet?
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
29 Apr 2016
Total posts 10
When will airlines drop the term "guests" for passengers.
To me a guest is someone whom you have invited to spend time with at no cost to them.
I have not come across an airline that invites guests on board for free.
Lets stop being pretentious people and call passengers just that.
Qantas
19 Apr 2012
Total posts 1435
Infrequently I think it is only one airline. I’ve never come across it anywhere else.
Emirates Airlines - Skywards
11 Mar 2015
Total posts 193
There should be an electrified chain put up between economy and business to control those who cant understand the rules that the front toilet is reserved for business class only-the crew never enforce the rule which is really stupid after all those who travel and pay for it deserve it!
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
20 Nov 2017
Total posts 114
VA crew do enforce. QF crew are too lazy to do so.
QF
11 Jul 2014
Total posts 894
Haven't flown on one of the new seats yet but I notice the chicken with mustard gravy and rice (in the above review) hit the right spot for me this week (10 out of 10), larger meals are starting to come out from VA. I'm flying VA tomorrow and Qantas on Monday so it's going to be good to compare both airlines.
05 Mar 2015
Total posts 395
An excellent write-up as always, love the photos and real-world details from a passenger's perspective. Although I'm a Qantas flyer it's great to see Virgin trying different seats which raise the bar in these small but sensible ways. Really like the tablet holders, especially the way the economy one lets you watch your device while also having a meal.
20 Nov 2015
Total posts 426
As this article mentions, these seats are the same type as SilkAir installed on its Boeing 737 MAX aircraft. I did several flights in those, both business and economy, and agree 100% with this review's findings. They're decent seats for the routes that Virgin flies, although I wouldn't be too keen on flying more than four or five hours even in the business class seat.
07 May 2015
Total posts 37
Virgin still has a few more ex-Silk 737s to come, I wonder if they will also get these same seats? A shame about the USB ports in economy not working, I suppose the seats themselves aren't actually 'wired up' to the plane's electrical system because there's nothing on these seats that needs power eg no IFE screen, no reading light, mechanical recline, the call button is in the panel above the passenger etc.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
04 Nov 2017
Total posts 311
It's been reported in Trip Reports across the internet that a number of ex-Silk 737s (that are not the two aircraft mentioned here) are using recycled current VA/ex-TigerAir seats, sans the divider on the Silkair units.
20 Oct 2015
Total posts 233
These look pretty good for what's a 'straight up' domestic product. Nothing to make your jaw drop but that's not the point here, just to present some a modern take on the conventional domestic product. Maybe Qantas has set the bar a bit low over the years, because I would honestly rather fly on one of these new Virgin 'prototype' seats even without IFE screens. Can't remember the last time I watched IFE on a domestic flight anyway, at least not airline-supplied content. I'm more likely reading or working or watching a show on my laptop or tablet.
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
06 Mar 2015
Total posts 229
I would hope that VA try to use these as much as possible on the Transcontinental Route where J class passengers would have would more time to enjoy appreciate the better seating. It is so sad to no longer have that fabulous A330 seating and service across the Continent. I always found it to have been about as good as it gets in J class on the A330 and always really looked forward to the flight but alas no more. One never knows , maybe in the future it will return.
These new style seats are a big improvement over the old ones. I'm looking forward to possibly trying them when I fly over to WA in mid April. That is of course very dependant on the Border Policy in WA.
From all reports I am reading VA seem to be getting better and better with time.
Good to see!!!
21 Apr 2019
Total posts 26
For a long sector no sign of a salad and desert!
06 Sep 2019
Total posts 27
I flew in one of these aircraft immediately after a fight with their normal seating. The leg room in row 3 is huge without the barrier. I'm not a skinny guy and the new economy seat felt a bit more spacious and comfortable than the usual seat.
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